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Wilders gast in show grootste gek van FoxNews: Glenn Beck

En ja hoor, je kunt er donder op zeggen. Geert Wilders is op bezoek bij de grootste gek van Fox News: Glenn Beck. Het geeft nog eens het slechte beoordelingsvermogen van Wilders aan. Glenn Beck heeft net een uitzending gewijd aan de komende burgeroorlog in de VS en nu mag Geert Wilders optreden. Blijkbaar weet Geert niet dat deze man totaal niet serieus wordt genomen. Even de laatste twee stukken over Glenn Beck op drasties.
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Geert Wilders to Glenn Beck: Europe needs a First Amendment

[Wilders] floats the idea of a pan-European right to free expression. One problem with that: The European Convention on Human Rights already grants that right, albeit with caveats galore. Another problem is that the cultural tides are against him. Take five minutes and read Christopher Caldwell’s critique of Wilders in the Weekly Standard for more on that. Caldwell, to his credit, is willing to call Wilders on his own notable hypocrisy in this area but keeps his eye on the big picture:
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Yes, there is increasingly a special regime for speech concerning Islam, or at least concerning religion. After the murder of van Gogh in 2004, the Dutch justice minister, Piet-Hein Donner, urged that blasphemy laws that had fallen into desuetude be revived to protect Muslims. He failed, but so did efforts to eliminate those laws, and Donner’s successor, Ernst Hirsch Ballin, has sought to strengthen them in recent weeks. Dutch elite opinion now leans towards the idea that one should try not to give the Muslim populations any cause for anger. In Britain, Muslims sought in 2006 a “law against incitement to religious hatred.” Before it passed, the House of Lords altered it to ensure that it would not chill critical discussion of any religion. Apparently they failed.

Yes, the British government has grown less interested in freedom. After the July 2005 transport bombings, and even more after the foiled airplane plot of the following summer, the government said so explicitly. “Traditional civil liberty arguments,” said Tony Blair, “are not so much wrong as just made for another age.” Since then, 270 people have been refused admission to Britain on grounds of sowing hate. Only four of these have been Europeans. This kind of disparate impact must leave Jacqui Smith feeling she has little to apologize for in banning Wilders.

The new European conception of freedom of speech, based on anti-racism, protects a lot less speech than did the old British and Dutch conceptions of freedom of speech, based on sovereignty. Maybe membership in the family of man relieves one of a certain amount of worry about the liberties of one’s fellow citizens.

Next stop for Wilders is Capitol Hill, to screen “Fitna” for the U.S. Senate at the invitation of Jon Kyl. Kudos to both of them. Exit question: Should we read anything into the fact that there was no snippet of “Fitna” shown here? Beck certainly has the stones to do it, but the Foxies conspicuously refused to show the Mohammed cartoons when that story was raging. Hmmm.

7 Responses to “Wilders gast in show grootste gek van FoxNews: Glenn Beck”

  1. drasties Says:

    It is my understanding that Wilders did not call for the banning of the Koran,

    rather, he claimed that if “hate speech” was to be banned in the EU then the Koran should be banned. Please correct me if I am wrong

  2. drasties Says:

    It is my understanding that Wilders did not call for the banning of the Koran,

    rather, he claimed that if “hate speech” was to be banned in the EU then the Koran should be banned. Please correct me if I am wrong
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    You’re not wrong, but unless you speak Dutch and keep up with Wilders’ dynamo schedule, there’s no way to know everything he’s said.

  3. Allerpamstliefste Says:

    You at Drasties shave everything over one comb. It really starts to annoy me. Are you being sponsored by moveon.org?? Glenn Beck is a libertarian. But there is no room for another opinion here on Drasties. There are the Democrates, no matter what they do, it is wonderful. And then there are the republicans. The symbol of all things evil in the world. CNN =GOOD! FOX=BAD! What are you guys? Kindergardners?
    Who, outside of the US, gives a fiddeling fart about Wilders visiting the senate? Most Americans don’t even give a shit. It’s infantile. Get a life.

  4. gandhi Says:

    A beautiful attitude one we could all aspire to develop and practice. Written with obvious honesty and clarity of thought and perceptions

    Letter from Barack Obama on His Muslim Heritage

    There has been a lot made in the recent weeks about the Muslim history of my family. Some of the things that have been said are true, others are false, so I am writing this letter to clear up the misunderstandings on this issue.

    Yes, it is true that I have a name that is common amongst Kenyan Muslims where my father came from and that my middle name is Hussein. Barack is a name which means “blessing” and Hussein is a masculine form of the word beauty. Since there is nothing inherently wrong with the concept of blessings from God and the beauty He creates I fail to see the problem with these names. Some will say wouldn’t it be a problem to have a president with a name similar to the deposed and executed former dictator of Iraq? My answer to this is simply no; rather it is the strength and beauty of America that the son of an African man with a “funny sounding” name, born under British Colonial Rule, can now be a serious candidate for the presidency of the United States.

    My father was a Muslim and although I did not know him well the religion of my father and his family was always something I had an interest in. This interest became more intense when my mother married an Indonesian Muslim man and as a small child I lived in Indonesia and attended school alongside Muslim pupils. I saw their parents dutifully observing the daily prayers, the mothers covered in the Muslim hijab, the atmosphere of the school change during Ramadan, and the festiveness of the Eid celebrations.

    The man my mother was married to was not particularly religious; but he would attend the mosque on occasion, and had copies of the Quran in different languages in the home, and books of the sayings and life of the Prophet Muhammad. From time to time he would quote Islamic phrases such as “no one truly believes until he wants for his brother what he wants for himself”, “oppression is worse than slaughter”, and “all humans are equal the only difference comes from our deeds”.

    Growing up in Hawaii with my mother and her grandparents Islam largely escaped my mind. My mother installed in me the values of humanism and I did not grow-up in a home where religion was taught.

    It was later while I attended college at Columbia University and Harvard Law that I became reacquainted with Muslims as both schools had large Muslims student populations. Some of them were my friends and many came from countries that our nation now has hostile relations with. The background I had from my early childhood in Indonesia helped me get to know them and learn from them and to me Muslims are not to be looked upon as something strange. In my experiences up until college a Muslim was no less exotic to me than a Mormon, a Jew, or a Jehovah’s Witness.

    After college I settled in my adopted hometown of Chicago and lived on the South Side and worked as a community organizer. Chicago has one of the largest Muslim populations in America (estimated to be around 300,000) and Muslims make-up some of the most productive citizens in the area. I met countless numbers of Muslims in my job as an organizer and later on in my early political career. I ate in their homes, played with their kids, and looked at them as friends and peers and sought their advice.

    Therefore, when the tragic terrorist attacks of 9-11 occurred I was deeply saddened with the rest of America , and I wanted justice for the victims of this horrific attack, but I did not blame all Muslims or the religion of Islam. From my experience I knew the good character of most Muslims and the value that they bring to America. Many, who did not personally know Muslims, indicted the entire religion for the bad actions of a few; my experience taught me that this was something foolish and unwise.

    Later I had the chance to visit the homeland of my father and meet Muslim relatives of mine including my grandmother. I found that these were people who wanted the same things out of life as people right here in America and worked hard, strove to make a better way for their children, and prayed to God to grant them success.

    This is what I will bring to the office of the Presidency of the United States. I will deal with Muslims from a position of familiarity and respect and at this time in the history of our nation that is something surely needed.

  5. r.u.cerius Says:

    That guy O’Reilly does he ever shut up and let Wilders finish a sentence? What a moron. I was more interested in what Wilders had to say than in Billo’s bile.

  6. DopErwt Says:

    Die Glenn Beck heeft een echte Fox-strot.

  7. robc Says:

    Glenn Beck makes me cringe; especially when he blathers in front of a foreigner.

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